Make Money by Learning to Say No (So You Don’t Go Broke Saying Yes)
In this episode, host Travis Chappell and producer Eric use a ridiculous on‑air nicotine experiment and some Kroger pickle‑jar banter to launch into a serious conversation about the power of saying no with your money. From friends asking to “spot me, bro” to sketchy investments, unpaid collabs, lifestyle upgrades, and sponsors that don’t feel right, they walk through real scenarios where saying yes can quietly wreck your finances—or your brand—if you’re not intentional.
On this episode we talk about:
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Eric nearly puking on mic after trying a 6mg mojito ZYN, why “no” would have been the better choice, and how that sets up the theme of the episode.
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How Travis handles friends and family asking for money—why he almost always says no to “investment” pitches now, and how he decides when helping actually becomes enabling.
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When to say yes (and when to stop) with unpaid collaborations, speaking gigs, and local partnerships—plus the story of how saying yes to a low‑ROI volleyball promo still led to a profitable tournament relationship for AuraVela.
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Lifestyle spending boundaries: cars, first‑class flights, subscriptions, Klarna‑financed Chipotle, and how Travis finally justified buying a genuinely nice car after years of driving beaters.
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The importance of asking “Does this matter to me—or just to other people?” before dropping money on status symbols, upgrades, or brand‑driven purchases.
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Eric’s recent decision to drop a meaningful podcast sponsor after loyal, long‑time listeners said it felt off, and why he chose long‑term trust over short‑term cash.
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The hidden risks of programmatic ads (like political spots or government agencies slipping in) and how both hosts have had to tighten ad category filters to protect their brands.
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Saying no to shady money: Travis turning down a $3,000 crypto‑related interview offer that required an NDA and looked like reputation rehab for a founder with bad press.
Top 3 Takeaways
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Not every “opportunity” is for you. Saying no to friends’ investments, high‑risk plays, or repeated bailouts protects your own financial runway and keeps you from funding other people’s bad patterns.
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Your brand is worth more than a short‑term check. Dropping a sponsor or declining a stage when it feels misaligned can cost money now but preserves audience trust that’s worth far more over a decade.
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Buy for your life, not their approval. Big purchases and lifestyle upgrades should be driven by your values, convenience, and experiences—not by keeping up with people you don’t even like.
Notable Quotes
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“For investments right now it’s basically a no—if I don’t have true ‘play money,’ I’d rather put it in something more certain than somebody else’s ‘sure thing.’”
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“If you’re asking me for help the fifth time, at some point I’m not helping—you’re just making bad decisions and I’m funding them.”
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“You can have the life you want now and later, but only if you stop buying stuff just to impress people and start asking if it actually matters to you.”
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