April 19, 2026

INTERVIEW | Make Money by Living Fully with Bill Perkins

INTERVIEW | Make Money by Living Fully with Bill Perkins
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Bill Perkins is a hedge fund manager, film producer, high-stakes poker player, and bestselling author of Die With Zero. Known for his unconventional philosophy on money and life, Bill challenges the traditional approach to saving and wealth-building by emphasizing fulfillment, intentional living, and maximizing life experiences. His perspective blends financial acumen with a deep focus on living a rich, meaningful life—not just accumulating wealth.

On this episode we talk about:

  • Bill’s early journey from a struggling clerk to hedge fund manager
  • The mindset shift that helped him believe wealth was possible
  • Why money is a tool—not the end goal
  • The concept of “memory dividends” and maximizing life experiences
  • How to balance saving, investing, and actually enjoying your life

Top 3 Takeaways

  1. Money is only valuable when it’s used to create meaningful life experiences—don’t confuse wealth accumulation with fulfillment.
  2. “Memory dividends” compound over time, making experiences often more valuable than delayed consumption.
  3. You should align your spending and saving with different life stages—what you value (and can physically enjoy) changes over time.

Notable Quotes

  • "The money is just a tool for the life that you want."
  • "If you're not in the arena, you have no chance."
  • "When’s the party? What are you saving all this money for?"

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