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Sept. 24, 2026

INTERVIEW | Make Money by Building Relationships That AI Can’t Replace with Zvi Band

INTERVIEW | Make Money by Building Relationships That AI Can’t Replace with Zvi Band

Zvi Band is a founder, software developer, author, and longtime advocate for the power of relationships. He founded Contactually, a personal CRM that he sold in 2019, and is now working on Relatable, an AI-powered relationship management tool designed to help people build and maintain meaningful connections. Zvi and Travis have been connected since the early days of Travis’s podcast, making this conversation a reunion focused on relationships, AI, technology, and what it means to stay human in an increasingly automated world.

On this episode we talk about:

  • Why human relationships may become even more valuable as AI and algorithms take over more of our daily lives

  • How AI can help you become more present in conversations by automatically capturing and organizing important details

  • Why people should move beyond simply asking AI to complete tasks and instead ask it to identify what it can do for them

  • Zvi’s vision of a future where AI agents handle execution while humans focus on ideas, decisions, and relationships

  • How parents can introduce children to AI while encouraging creativity, critical thinking, and technological literacy

  • The potential impact of emerging technologies like AI, quantum computing, and fusion energy

Top 3 Takeaways

  1. Relationships are a long-term competitive advantage. As more content and interactions become algorithm-driven, genuine relationships and personal trust can become increasingly valuable.

  2. Use AI to eliminate busywork, not human connection. AI can capture meeting notes, remember personal details, and handle execution so you can be more present and focused on the person in front of you.

  3. Ask AI what it can do for you. Instead of only giving AI specific instructions, give it insight into how you spend your time and ask it to identify tasks, processes, or opportunities where it can help.

Notable Quotes

  • "It still does the same thing that you and I care about, which is, you know, be the second brain that helps us build and maintain relationships."

  • "I think moving that stack is really fascinating."

  • "All we have to do is be the people with the idea and making the decisions. And then, yeah, all the execution work is just gonna be done by other things."

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